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Model Year
Track
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Date Entered
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8526
2003
Nürburgring Nordschleife
3
3965
 
 
10/01/2010 6:49 PM
02/20/2011 3:41 AM  
Muffler Racing Suspension Racing
Racing Chip Sports Transmission Full Customize
NA Tune Stage 2 Clutch Triple Plate
Front Tires S3 - Soft Flywheel Racing
Rear Tires S3 - Soft Carbon Driveshaft None
Nitrous None GT Auto - Wing Equipped
Turbine Kit None Limited Slip Full Customize
Intercooler None AYC None
Supercharger None VCD None
Brakes Normal Weight Reduction Stage 2
Brake Controller Equipped Increase Rigidity None
Setup Item Front Rear Setup Item Front Rear
Spring Rate 8.0 11.8 Stabilizers 4 2
Ride Height 106 108 Brake Balance 4 2
Shock Absorbers Downforce 22 30
Shock Bound 4 4 LSD Init. Torque 24
Shock Rebound 5 5 LSD Acceleration 36
Camber Angle 3.0 1.8 LSD Deceleration 12
Toe Angle 0 0 Nitrous 68
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final Auto Set
3.456 2.123 1.726 1.483 1.196 1.093 3.241 1
ASM
Oversteer
ASM
Understeer
TCS Ballast
Balance
Ballast
Weight
AYC VCD
0 0 3 0 0
This tune is a sports tyre tune without full horsepower, but still attains great performance. I used port and polish, oil change and engine balancing.

EDIT (28/12/2010): After listening to Brette's advice, I thought that I would give this another go and actually try to do this properly, rather than put a setup in to get it done quickly. I changed almost everything to try and stop this behaviour ruining this car. First, I tried to get more grip in the rear by lowering the spring rate and stabilisers, then increasing rear camber. Then, I lowered the shocks to get it to be more stable. Finally, I lowered the downforce to make it more stable at high speed. Hope it works better!!! I also changed the gears again to make them even closer.

EDIT (9/1/2011): Reduced front spring rate and reduced rear stabilliser to reduce the remaining oversteer.

EDIT (28/1/2011): Had to edit this setup for use for sports tyres (see below post) Most of the issues of this car is fixed without resorting to toe, but might not work with your driving style. Now a sports tyre tune.

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Feedback
Updated 12/27/2010 1:48 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Brette's info
Firstly I'd just like to say it's good seeing another aussie having a go.
I've tried out your tune at Nurburgring since I didn't know where you tuned, plus it's a road tune so Nurburgring is a good place to go.

Some things I'd like to clear up on your setup's page settings though. With the parts you have posted the power is not 378hp but more around 395hp, so please check if you've posted the correct stuff. Also your setting figures for the wing on the rear cannot be 33 as the top figure I could get to is 30, so you'll need to fix that too.

Now on your setup.

After driving the car around Nurburgring there were some good points to your tune. I found the gearbox to be well set, but I would have found it better if the gears were set more closely. Also the car could change it's direction well at low speeds.

But there were downsides to the tune. For instance when I was testing the car for the first time around Nurburgring it's so unstable, that at high speed corners I spun out, and that wasn't even driving absolutely on the edge. To give you an example of how unruly I found it to be, I spun out 3 times on my first attempt of a lap around the ring. Even on low speed corners at times, the rear would simply whip around and countersteering would make things worse as the car would lose all it's grip.

Something that I might just be nit picking at though as some of the stuff your upgraded the car with. Increasing Rigidity isn't necessary at all and it costs $30000, so that might be something you want to consider. You could spend that $30000 on port polishing the engine (which is good since your running a N/A engine) and engine balancing it. Also I understand that your tune is running on R3's (racing medium tyres) since you couldn't find enough grip at times. But if you can set the suspension up better and use appropriate settings on the LSD, you could run on racing hard's or even sports soft, resulting in less costs.

I think the main issue with this tune is cornering and stability. You need to balance out the 2 so that you can get the best out of this car. A tip I can give you is check your suspension settings. The car is a MR (mid engine rear drive) car so you need to tune to those specifications specifically. If you tune it properly the car should handle much better.
Brette
My Cars:
- 1985 Nissan Gazelle S12 (Drift Pig),
- 1987 Nissan Be-1 w/canvas roof, and a parts car

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Sorry!
Posted 12/27/2010 4:35 PM Post a reply Quote this post View comcats's info
Sorry about that mistake in the settings! I'll go and adjust that right away.
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Another go
Posted 01/01/2011 7:35 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Brette's info
Comparing the old setup to now...it has significantly improved. I do like the way the car drives now, even on S2's.

To me the car still exhibits it's natural tendency to oversteer, when it no longer grips the road. But this is normal so really it ain't that big of a deal.

Just minor thing from me though. I found the brake balance to be near useless, as I do with nearly all tunes. This is only my opinion though, and you may argue your view about it and leave it as it is.

A vote from me.
My Cars:
- 1985 Nissan Gazelle S12 (Drift Pig),
- 1987 Nissan Be-1 w/canvas roof, and a parts car

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AHH! R5 Super Softs?!
Posted 01/28/2011 1:09 AM Post a reply Quote this post View comcats's info
Uh oh... I used R5 super softs for all testing Question? !!! So now, I have included a sports tyre tune for use on the track. This has racked up about 100km of my own testing and should be great for you to use. I've had to use sports softs this time to give enough grip into the road. Big Grin
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