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Setup ID
Tuner
Make
Car
Model Year
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Horsepower
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7672
2004
Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
3
4227
627
1:21.410
03/20/2009 2:42 AM
07/25/2009 11:25 PM  
Muffler Standard Suspension Racing
Racing Chip Normal Transmission Full Customize
NA Tune Stage 3 Clutch Triple Plate
Front Tires R3 - Medium Flywheel Racing
Rear Tires R3 - Medium Carbon Driveshaft Equipped
Nitrous None GT Auto - Wing Equipped
Turbine Kit None Limited Slip Standard
Intercooler None AYC None
Supercharger None VCD None
Brakes Racing Weight Reduction Stage 3
Brake Controller None Increase Rigidity None
Setup Item Front Rear Setup Item Front Rear
Spring Rate 10.5 8.5 Stabilizers 4 5
Ride Height 100 100 Brake Balance
Shock Absorbers Downforce 30 30
Shock Bound 8 6 LSD Init. Torque
Shock Rebound 8 7 LSD Acceleration
Camber Angle 2.0 2.0 LSD Deceleration
Toe Angle 0 1 Nitrous
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final Auto Set
3.016 2.079 1.605 1.281 1.041 0.885 3.460 10
ASM
Oversteer
ASM
Understeer
TCS Ballast
Balance
Ballast
Weight
AYC VCD
0 0 0 -15 138
This is still a work in progress.
Brette, it is as fast as I can drive it, (doesn't say much) but I still need your part restriction list and the type of tires allowed.
An oil change was performed to get the hp shown.
Would be nice to see what you think, StigsTC
EDIT:
I haven't actually changed the numbers on the shown setup, but I have overhauled the setup to follow Brette's guidlines. Hopefully it is closer than the first time.
EDIT:
Round 1 of the challenge posted, settings changed to what I used. Odly I had no Brake Controller or LSD listed but the figures were still shown despite being blanked out...
EDIT:
I just figured out how to fix the above problem, and is why the setup has been updated. now it reads as it should.
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Updated 03/21/2009 9:06 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Brette's info
I made these restrictions because it makes both the cars feel more like a V8 Supercars. These are the changes you'll need for your setups: Your setup is a bit differnt to mine so far but i havnt done SS yet, all i did is check what the GT setup feels on SS so i guess thats why

1. Muffler Stock(Makes its sound a bit more realistic cause for some reason it sounds like Skyline with racing on)
2. No Brake Controller (the cars dont use that in real life either if they did the cars would never lock up the brakes)
3. LSD is unsure at the moment feel free to use it now(but im pretty sure they dont cause if they did the cars wouldnt do Burnouts and Slide so easily ya know pretty much common sense not to put on less fun LSD to a V8)
4. You dont need this but i put on a wing to simulate it a bit more. (Any wing would do fine if you were to use it)
5. I made my SS heavier to be equal to the weight on the Ford. When i added weight its
about +138 in the ballest tuning section.
The tires can be anything and Hp numbers are only about 3hp out from each other but the cars perform exactly the same just the torque and handling are differnt. I even reckon that the Falcon still is faster than the SS even though it has less Hp weird... (Nearly done GT plus i went pass Dick Johnson racing today at Yatala its right next to a drive --in theatre loL funy)
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Posted 03/21/2009 9:52 AM Post a reply Quote this post View StigsTibecuadorianco's info
The wing is my bad, I put it in but my setup didn't list it, my time now looks rubbish, oh well.
What power upgrades are there, I still can't get my head round this.
Ballast at 138kgs for the holden, I can do that.
I shall re-do and repost at a later date, horror weekend, not likely, but you never know.
I thouht brake controller adjusted the strength of it, not the ABS, but I did notice a significant drop in stopping distance, at least 20m.
See you around,
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Updated 03/22/2009 5:25 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Brette's info
I actually got your times in my GT that only had 627hp and is about 138kg's more heavier.
By using Brake Controller did you stop quicker or was it the other way around?
For power upgrades buy all except Any Muffler, No Sports CPU, No Port Polish, but instead of Port Polish use the Engine Balancing tune for it.
It a bit confusing but once you understand what i mean, you'll get the 630hp mark for your SS
If you need me you know where to find me.
I'm testing your NSX right now so yeah
Hope its much better than last time:)
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Posted 03/22/2009 8:34 AM Post a reply Quote this post View StigsTibecuadorianco's info
PHEW With less horsepower I'll get less wheelspin (everywhere).
The break controller let me go deeper, (more pressure) shorter stopping distance.
I wanted to tune the Ford, but I guess someone has to tune the holden. Look at the gear ratio diagram of the SS when you tune it up, every gear is so short, except 6th, so funny and useless until 4th. I accidentley inverse tranny tricked my gear box (auto 25 and final 2.5) and I got 1st gear out to 150 kmh, and I only got into 2nd gear for the lap, I was only 2 seconds off the pace. I was trying to work in real ratios (tasmania round) 100km is first gear, 6th is about 265, but I couldn't shorten the longer gears enough, have to make it that way to reduce the wheelspin though. I thought this would be a fun tune, easy to do that would smoke the JGTC. The time I did with my Xanavi was A LOT quicker than this, rather sad. I'll have to try again next weekend, chat to you soon,
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(At least I am close to you, with improvement to be made.)
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Posted 03/30/2009 1:15 AM Post a reply Quote this post View StigsTibecuadorianco's info
Made required hp, LSD, weight and brake changes, put some Hard tires on the car and got 1:23.938 with many errors. Still has work to be done. ( I was up 0.55 after Rainey and went off the next corner.)
Then I threw some medium tires on it, put weight balance to -15,
1st gear to 3.016, 2nd to 2.079, 3rd to 1.605, and did a 1:21.410
Power dropped to 627hp at the end or my lap.
Still to try the new settings on a hard tire run.
How does that sit on the scale of things?
(If I could use a manual tranny I would take 1 or 2 seconds off my time through wheelspin, darn auto-tranny that won't shift.)
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I want in with this challenge
Posted 03/30/2009 10:39 AM Post a reply Quote this post View DjWess's info
I want in with this, just giving in more help
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Posted 03/30/2009 9:12 PM Post a reply Quote this post View StigsTibecuadorianco's info
I have no problems with that.
OK, what you are allowed to have:
Either a Holden Commodore SS or an FPV GT
Power upgrades:
NA tune Stage 3
Engine Balancing
NO OIL
Racing Suspension
Racing Breaks
NO BRAKE BALANCE CONTROLLER
NO MUFFLER
NO RACING CHIP
Any clutch
Any Transmission
I think any flywheel
NO LSD
optional GT Auto wing
optional Increase regidity
Any tires (I think we will run Hard or Medium, still haven't decided, all 4 tires must be the same)
You should have around 620-640 hp (I had 627 with an oil change instead of Engine balancing, the oil has just worn off and is losing hp quickly [approx 200km])
IF YOU USE THE COMMODORE YOU MUST HAVE 138 Kg OF BALLAST
I think that is everything, hopefully you can come up with a tune for it that'll match Brette's GT
Remember, whatever you tune for now, you will have to do the other one at Suzuka when we finish the first one.
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OK Suzuka it is, Thank you for letting me in this challenge
Posted 03/30/2009 9:38 PM Post a reply Quote this post View DjWess's info
StigsTibecuadorianco wrote:
I have no problems with that.
OK, what you are allowed to have:
Either a Holden Commodore SS or an FPV GT
Power upgrades:
NA tune Stage 3
Engine Balancing
NO OIL
Racing Suspension
Racing Breaks
NO BRAKE BALANCE CONTROLLER
NO MUFFLER
NO RACING CHIP
Any clutch
Any Transmission
I think any flywheel
NO LSD
optional GT Auto wing
optional Increase regidity
Any tires (I think we will run Hard or Medium, still haven't decided, all 4 tires must be the same)
You should have around 620-640 hp (I had 627 with an oil change instead of Engine balancing, the oil has just worn off and is losing hp quickly [approx 200km])
IF YOU USE THE COMMODORE YOU MUST HAVE 138 Kg OF BALLAST
I think that is everything, hopefully you can come up with a tune for it that'll match Brette's GT
Remember, whatever you tune for now, you will have to do the other one at Suzuka when we finish the first one.
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Updated 03/30/2009 9:41 PM Post a reply Quote this post View StigsTibecuadorianco's info
We haven't started Laguna Seca yet,
You can still do a tune and set a lap.
Then I think we will do the family cup (take the race time) to see which is quicker.
Besides, Neither Brette or I have actually started Suzuka yet, I am still working on Laguna Seca, Brette takes a long time to finish a tune, so there is no hurry. I am on holidays next week so i'll have plenty of time.
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Holden monaro CV8
Posted 04/03/2009 8:22 PM Post a reply Quote this post View DjWess's info
StigsTibecuadorianco wrote:
We haven't started Laguna Seca yet,
You can still do a tune and set a lap.
Then I think we will do the family cup (take the race time) to see which is quicker.
Besides, Neither Brette or I have actually started Suzuka yet, I am still working on Laguna Seca, Brette takes a long time to finish a tune, so there is no hurry. I am on holidays next week so i'll have plenty of time.
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Posted 04/03/2009 8:28 PM Post a reply Quote this post View StigsTibecuadorianco's info
Does that mean you are using one?
Because we are only running the SS and the GT to match (as close as possible) the real V8 Supercars here in Australia.
Brette and I discussed this before and we decided against the monaro, because it wasn't close enough to the supercars, and had never been run as one, like the other ford car, the 6 cylinder turbocharged thing.
Hopefully that clarifies things,
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ROUND 1 LAGUNA SECA
Posted 04/04/2009 8:29 PM Post a reply Quote this post View StigsTibecuadorianco's info
OK, with medium tires and all the requirements I got:
Run 1:
Total 2'54.622 Best 1'23.622
Run 2:
Total 2'58.072 Best 1'23.557
Run 3:
Total 2'55.322 Best 1'23.877
AVERAGE:
2'56.005
BEST STINT
2'54.622
BEST LAP
1'23.557
The third lap saw a huge spin at the exit of the corkscrew, it hit the dip at the bottom, slide right, the just ripped left and into the wall.
The third run I got blocked by the VW Nardo, potentially 2 seconds because I got slowed down by other cars through the next two corners, I knew I should have put the Opposition on speed -10, but I used speed +10.
I am not sure the tires were up to temperature, but the car has potentially 2 seconds a lap more speed than recorded during teh challenge.
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Updated 04/15/2009 11:09 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Brette's info
Did your car understeer? Cause i've noticed that all you did was UP the original Spring Rates from its Stock from i think...
I've posted my Car times check it out i did better than you at all runs but i think its just that i had better luck that you cause i went around the VW instead of going inside it at that first corner. I did go into the inside for the First Run actually and nearly slammed into it. Can you tell me what Wess did?
And Stigs how can you not like the F6 Typhoon? Seriously have you seen the new 1? It's faster than the GT on the Street, Uses a Aussie Inline-Six that sounds great and the turbo dont lag, it practicly revs like a normal aspiration engine even though its turbocharged. It's bloody awesome!
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Posted 04/18/2009 4:36 AM Post a reply Quote this post View StigsTibecuadorianco's info
I suffered oversteer which is caused by the massive amount of power. But when the car actually gripped up I found that understeer did occur.
You killed me on the times, I really think it was the driver, rather than the tune, but congratulations on taking every single catagory we thought of. Darn.
I think DJ has dumped the V8 thing, we talked about it somewhere, I guess it was not moving fast enough.
Right, now we go to Suzuka, the Ford, Medium tires and family cup speed +10.
See you in about 2 weeks, unless you have already started.
I have nothing against the F6 Typhoon. I love the fact that it is a 6 cylinder car WITH a turbocharger, and gives about as much hp as a V8, with much better economy.
Didn't Top Gear Australia review both the F6 and the HSV last year? Is that the new one? I didn't know they launched a new one, nor did I know it was an Australian in line-six, but throughout the entire road test I was loving the F6. My coments were based on the difference between the V8 supercars and performance charecteristics, also I couldn't remember its name, that is why I referenced it as the "6 cylinder turbocharged thing".
DJ, if you read this, run the monaro, I would like to know how it compares to the SS and GT.
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Posted 04/18/2009 7:12 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Brette's info
Holy Crap i just tried your setup.
How in the world did you get a 1:21 in it? Must just be my driving was realllly bad with it.
But its does feel genuine so i'll give it a vote Thumbs Up
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Posted 04/18/2009 8:05 AM Post a reply Quote this post View StigsTibecuadorianco's info
Thanks for the vote Brette,
Still need to try yours, just so busy with all the holiday homework I have avoided until now.
Might get a chance this weekend, but I have doubts.
Hmmm, maybe that explains why I did so crap in the challenge, I better check. I get the feeling that my setup is not the one I used, I had to remove LSD and brake balance figures...
Lets just say it needs an acquired driving style. What setup are you using, (wheel or controller) and are you using a manual/auto tranny, and are you planting full throttle when you drive.
For me, Controller, Auto gear box, 100% throttle or brake. To drive fast, be aggressive, use opposite lock, don't be afraid to slide or use all the road and a little bit more. Brake very late and it should pull up. All the time should be gained in the first half of the lap, before the corkscrew, then it is about hanging on to a good lap time.
Thanks again for the vote,
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Didn't dump the V8. Remeber, I DNF laguna seca
Posted 04/19/2009 3:01 PM Post a reply Quote this post View DjWess's info
Just had myself caught in another Midnight Club: LA Championchip for South Central. Winner gets $600 USD.

But I'd also been playing Juiced 2 and Grid. Along with Prom in the way, I don't think I'll get as much time to tune out cars as planned ( did I spell that right? I thought it was just one N).
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Posted 07/26/2009 7:41 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Brette's info
I feel embarrassed... I just read my tune and it said you went faster in it than i did!
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Posted 07/26/2009 7:48 AM Post a reply Quote this post View StigsTibecuadorianco's info
yes, but on race day, you beat me. And you really beat me... Suzuka will be different!!
At which point, want to get the V8 supercar challenge going again?
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If I win the next challenge, make the V8 supercar rules, the next challenge!!
Suzuka, seing as we both haven't done anything there yet, (I think)
What do you think?
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Posted 07/26/2009 9:21 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Brette's info
Thats IF you win. I'm working on the Mustang GT at 445hp right now. Its way different than a Ford FalconGT or a Commodore SS.
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