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Vote for Setup 6409    New Setup for Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI      
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Model Year
Track
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6409
1993
Road Setup
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5814
441
1:22.698
03/31/2007 2:40 PM
04/01/2007 4:08 PM  
Muffler Racing Suspension Racing
Racing Chip Normal Transmission Full Customize
NA Tune None Clutch Standard
Front Tires R3 - Medium Flywheel Standard
Rear Tires R3 - Medium Carbon Driveshaft None
Nitrous None GT Auto - Wing None
Turbine Kit None Limited Slip Full Customize
Intercooler None AYC None
Supercharger None VCD Equipped
Brakes Normal Weight Reduction None
Brake Controller Equipped Increase Rigidity Equipped
Setup Item Front Rear Setup Item Front Rear
Spring Rate 11.5 14.5 Stabilizers 4 5
Ride Height 60 63 Brake Balance 7 5
Shock Absorbers Downforce 38 53
Shock Bound 5 7 LSD Init. Torque 5 5
Shock Rebound 6 8 LSD Acceleration 5 5
Camber Angle 2.7 0.7 LSD Deceleration 5 5
Toe Angle -1 0 Nitrous
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th Final Auto Set
4.335 3.104 2.351 1.859 1.535 1.324 4.500 1
ASM
Oversteer
ASM
Understeer
TCS Ballast
Balance
Ballast
Weight
AYC VCD
0 0 1 13
Tuned for Drivng Force Pro at Laguna Seca on R3 tires.

Includes; an "oil change" to get the Hp to 441.
Gears by way of "Tranny Trick".

Ran 1' 22.698 on R3 tires with 441 Hp from a stock tune.

So, I tune this one at Laguna Seca by taking multiple laps, making small changes in gearing and suspension, and going for another run of 3 to 10 laps. I use what I've learned about tuning cars, my notes on other AWD setups, a seat of the pants feel to tune each car. Sometimes I go to "GT Vault" after I finalize my tune and compare my end results to other setups. I'm amazed at how close this one is to Fumes' Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI. So much so that he deserves a vote for his setup. There are differences of course, but It's scary how much our final setups resemble each other.

Considering this car for Nurburgring 24 hr Endurance.

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Posted 04/01/2007 12:35 AM Post a reply Quote this post View cant-b-beat's info
this is pretty much the sickest tuning for an AWD car that i have ever had the privelage of driving! very smooth, and hardly ANY understeer at ALL!!!!

awesome job, BTW!!!!!
What if you started a Straight Pride parade?

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Nurburgring Nordschleife
Updated 04/14/2007 12:40 AM Post a reply Quote this post View BTWhite37's info
Nurburgring Nordschleife

Changes to setup for the 'Ring compared to Laguna Seca include:
....................Front / Rear
Ride Height, ....... 63 / 66
Final Ratio, ........ 3.750

Taking a look at this car for the Nurburgring 24hr Endurance. Most likely the one I'll go with.

Extra ride height gives the suspension some room to move and keep the bottom of the car from scraping on the rough surface at The Nurburgring.

Ran 6' 38.363 on R3 tires with 441 Hp, 4/01/07.
"Half measures availed us nothing", BBoAA.
- All setups and tuning for the Logitech Driving Force Pro and/or G25. - 100% Complete, Finally!... and on to GT5!!! @PS3 as "BTWhite37"

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Nurburgring 24hr Endurance Race
Updated 11/26/2007 6:26 PM Post a reply Quote this post View BTWhite37's info
Nurburgring 24hr Endurance Race

Car: Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI Touring Car, '93

Changes to setup for the Nurburgring 24hr include:
.......................... Front / Rear
Down Force, ............. 35 / 50
VCD, ........................ 10%
TCS, .......................... 4

The Competition: ................................. Pits Every
Toyota, Super AutoBacs Apex MR-S, '00 .......... 7 laps
AMG Mercedes Benz 190E EvoII T/C, '04 .......... 6 laps
Nissan C-West Razo Silvia(JGTC), '01 .............. 6 laps
Nissan Falken * GTR Race Car ....................... 5 laps
Opel Calibra Touring Car, 94 ......................... 6 laps

Pit at Lap .... Time In Pits ..... Total Time ........Tire Change ... * Notes
.......... (vs. Nissan Fauken * GTR Race Car '04) ........... F / R

Start .............................................................. R1 / R1 ... * A-Spec
4 ................. + 0' 50 ....................................... R1 / R2
28 ................ + 2' 28 .......................................
10 ................ + 2' 47 ............. @ 1:12' 23 ............ R1 / R1 ... * B-Spec
15 ................ + 2' 39 .......................................
20 ................ + 2' 20 ............. @ 2: 28' 15 ........... R1 / R2 ... * A-Spec
24 ................ + 3' 34 ....................................... R2 / R2
27 ................ + 4' 55 ....................................... R1 / R2
30 ................ + 5' 07 ............. @ 3: 40' 29 ........... R1 / R1 ... * B-Spec
35 ................ + 5' 29 .......................................
40 ................ + 5' 02 .......................................
45 ................ + 4' 44 .......................................... * 6 Hrs (1/4 comp)
50 ................ + 4' 25 .......................................... 49 1/2 Lps @ +4' 33
55 ................ + 3' 57 .......................................
60 ................ + 3' 44 ............. @ 7: 28' 48 ........... R1 / R2 ... * A-Spec
64 ................ + 4' 41 ....................................... R1 / R1
67 ................ + 5' 56 ....................................... R1 / R2
70 ................ + 6' 31 ............. @ 8: 41' 30 ........... R1 / R1 ... * B-Spec
75 ................ + 6' 45 .......................................
80 ................ + 6' 35 .......................................
85 ................ + 6' 10 .......................................
90 ................ + 5' 54 .......................................... * 12 Hrs (1/2 comp)
95 ................ + 5' 34 .......................................... 96 1/4 Lps @ +5' 41
100 .............. + 5' 12 ............. @ 12: 28' 45 .......... R1 / R2 ... * A-Spec
104 .............. + 6' 07 ........................................... * + 1 Lap on lap 103
107 .............. + 1 lap ........................................ R1 / R1
110 .............. + 1 lap ............. @ 13: 40' 51 .......... R1 / R1 ... * B-Spec
115 .............. + 1 lap ........................................
120 .............. + 1 lap ........................................
125 .............. + 1 lap ........................................
130 .............. + 1 lap ........................................
135 .............. + 7' 12 ........................................
140 .............. + 6' 54 ............. @17: 29' 02 ........... R1 / R2 ... * A-Spec
144 .............. + 1 lap ........................................... * 18 Hrs (3/4 comp)
147 .............. + 1 lap ........................................... 145 Lps @ +1 lap
150 .............. + 1 lap ........................................
154 .............. + 1 lap & 3' 15 ...............................
157 .............. + 1 lap & 4' 43 ...............................
160 .............. + 1 lap & 5' 15 .... @ 19: 53' 39 .......... R1 / R1 ... * B-spec
165 .............. + 1 lap & 5' 35 ...............................
170 .............. + 1 lap & 5' 14 ...............................
175 .............. + 1 lap & 4' 50 ...............................
180 .............. + 1 lap & 4' 40 .... @ 22: 25' 37 .......... R2 / R2 ... * A-spec
184 .............. + 1 lap & 5' 48 ............................... R1 / R2
188 .............. + 2 laps .......................................... * + 2 Lap on lap 188
191 .............. + 2 laps & 0' 30 ... @ 23: 44' 40 .......... R2 / R3
193 .............. + 2 laps & 1' 34 ... @ 24: 00.05.625 ........ * Finish


Here are the Numbers:
Total time: 24:00' 05.625
Total laps: 193, (73 A-Spec, 120 B-Spec)
Total miles: 2492.7
Fastest lap: 6' 50.387 on R2/R3 tires, 6' 59.039 on R1/R2 tires
Fastest lap, B-Spec: 7' 26.400 on R1/R1 tires
Fastest Practice Lap: 6' 38.363 on R3s
Pit every: 3 or 4 laps, R1/R2 tires, (A-Spec)
Horse Power: 441, At the end of race: 413 Hp
Final Ratio: 3.750, Ratios by way of "Tranny Trick"
"Half measures availed us nothing", BBoAA.
- All setups and tuning for the Logitech Driving Force Pro and/or G25. - 100% Complete, Finally!... and on to GT5!!! @PS3 as "BTWhite37"

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4WD Turning
Posted 07/28/2008 7:07 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Fieldstar's info
Greetings;
-- What would you sugest to help to get a normal car on sport tires to pull the nose into turns. Im having difficulty getting the ZZ II to respond on mid-speed entry at Nurburgring and Ive made numerous changes trying to get it right.
-Nurburgring Racer-
-DS2 controler-
This months GTVault Tuner Challange-->http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::8819/5-Maxi-Turbo-Rally-Car-jalevesque/

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AWD Tuning.............
Updated 07/31/2008 12:37 AM Post a reply Quote this post View BTWhite37's info
Fieldstar wrote:
Greetings;
-- What would you sugest to help to get a normal car on sport tires to pull the nose into turns. Im having difficulty getting the ZZ II to respond on mid-speed entry at Nurburgring and Ive made numerous changes trying to get it right.


Fieldstar,........So here's what I know about All Wheel Drive Tuning,......... Hope I can help you, Brian

The best ones are closest to Rear Wheel Drive setups,......... Meaning.....
* Lowest possible front VCD settings
* Softer front springs than rear
* Lower front damping ratings than rear
* Softer front Sway Bars (stabilizers)
* No LSD,. not ever.. Or lowest possible settiings

Here's I bit I sent to another tuner a while back:
Just a Hint..........
Marty14, If you care to put a bit more time in this car,............... Try the AWD setups with no LSD at all. The idea of LSD works against that of the VCD. Opt for no LSD, front and rear............ and tune from there. On the cars that can't de-select LSD,......... run them all at "5",........... the minimum setting. Makes a huge difference in the snow and dirt. Give it a whirl, and let me know how it goes, Brian.
"Half measures availed us nothing", BBoAA.
- All setups and tuning for the Logitech Driving Force Pro and/or G25. - 100% Complete, Finally!... and on to GT5!!! @PS3 as "BTWhite37"

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AWD Tuning at Nurburgring..
Posted 08/03/2008 8:26 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Fieldstar's info
Greetings BTWhite;
-- As you sugested with various different methods to control a AWD car. I went to work. Unfortunatly for the ZZ II, I couldnt get much more than what it had for the "Ring". However, I tried the same methods to my worst runner in the Touring Race Class, the Mazda 6 Touring Car and the Audi Le'mans Quattro. The cars had decent balance in suspension but the Mazda could not go more than 2 laps before destroying front tires. Bottoming out the VCD and LSD brought life to a 3rd lap. Removing the same for the Quattro gave a better handling overall.
--Thanks for great tunning insite to AWD
-Nurburgring Racer-
-DS2 controler-
This months GTVault Tuner Challange-->http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::8819/5-Maxi-Turbo-Rally-Car-jalevesque/

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AWD Tuning.............
Posted 08/03/2008 9:12 PM Post a reply Quote this post View BTWhite37's info
Happy to hear they handled better for you. I used the same guidelines to tune a Subaru WRX STI in GT5 Prologue and was happy to find they still ring true. To fine tune even further,......... Take the car to the dirt and/or snow. Have fun, Brian
"Half measures availed us nothing", BBoAA.
- All setups and tuning for the Logitech Driving Force Pro and/or G25. - 100% Complete, Finally!... and on to GT5!!! @PS3 as "BTWhite37"

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Another excellent tune!
Posted 08/24/2009 10:17 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Bang_N_Olufsen's info
This is my favorite tune for this car. You tamed the slight tail-happy characteristic. Very fast and neutral handling! Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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Goina try it tomorrow!
Posted 11/20/2010 10:41 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Soda666's info
I'ma try this setup of yours tomorrow, if I still have that car that is. Originally I was going to use "Minolta 88C-V Race Car", but I've been told that's sorta overkill. Additionally, I personally have had good experience with "350Z Concept LM Race Car". If I don't have the car you used, do you think the 350Z will work. If so can you refer me to a good tuning setup for it?

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350Z Setups...........
Posted 11/21/2010 12:02 AM Post a reply Quote this post View BTWhite37's info
Soda666 wrote:
I'ma try this setup of yours tomorrow, if I still have that car that is. Originally I was going to use "Minolta 88C-V Race Car", but I've been told that's sorta overkill. Additionally, I personally have had good experience with "350Z Concept LM Race Car". If I don't have the car you used, do you think the 350Z will work. If so can you refer me to a good tuning setup for it?

Soda666, If your gonna use a rear wheel drive car like the 350Z, balance and tire wear are key to running a 24 hr race. Remember you'll be running at 8/10ths of the cars max in order to save the tires and make the few extra laps without tire changes. Match your fuel needs with your tire wear so you can pit and take care of both.

For the Z cars try a variation of:
http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::3200/Nissan-350Z-Concept-LM-Race-Car/
or
http://www.gtvault.com/gt4/setup-view/s_sid::3210/Nissan-Option-Stream-Z/
"Half measures availed us nothing", BBoAA.
- All setups and tuning for the Logitech Driving Force Pro and/or G25. - 100% Complete, Finally!... and on to GT5!!! @PS3 as "BTWhite37"
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