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Incorrect weight for the new Beetle
Posted 01/21/2012 10:11 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Kerr's info
I received a note from MasterGT that the weight for the new Beetle in GT5 is much higher than it should be.
MasterGT wrote:
The weight specs on the new Beetle are incorrect. It is listed in-game as about 800 lbs, or so, over-weight. That's heavier than the Samba Bus. They used the wrong number (its full load capacity, not its curb weight).
He's sent in a request to have the information requested, but it may be awhile before anything is done.

In any case, if any of you with watchful eyes catch inaccuracies like this, please post here or send me a message and I'll get the information forwarded to SCEA via MasterGT.

Thanks for the heads up, MasterGT!
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Posted 01/21/2012 1:08 PM Post a reply Quote this post View MasterGT's info
The car is the new 1966 Beetle, from the latest DLC package.

It seems to handle relatively OK, but something like the aero drag coefficient seems to be off, too, to get it there.
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Updated 01/21/2012 5:23 PM Post a reply Quote this post View LooneyTunes's info
This wouldn't the first time. The Lamborghini Miura weighs at least 600 pounds less than it should, and the Volvo 240 wagon weighs at least 1000 pounds more than it should. And apparently the Pontiac GTO and old Camaro weigh less than they should. Split the extra poundage on the Volvo between the two muscle cars, and add some of the extra Beetle weight to the Lamborghini.

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Updated 01/24/2012 3:18 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Draghon's info
Tranny settings for the SVT Cobra are all off as well, along with the car has ABS ONLY on the rear wheels... not only that but a 3.73 Final should make me Accelerate faster but it was slower than the 3.55

Interesting thing on the SVT setting I just posted...
http://www.gtvault.com/gt5/setup-view/s_sid::9020/Ford-Mustang-SVT-Cobra-R--00/
and I quote.
Draghon wrote:
Tried this setting on the more powerful and lighter '05 Mustang, but uhhhh... could only get 214mph, odd that a more powerful and lighter car would be slower with the same settings...........
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Posted 01/25/2012 10:26 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Kerr's info
I wonder how this kind of thing passes QA.
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Posted 01/26/2012 2:28 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Draghon's info
Kerr wrote:
I wonder how this kind of thing passes QA.


I wonder why they hire grads and doctorates to figure this shit out...

Hire me, I'll Quality Control this shit....
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Posted 01/27/2012 12:01 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Brette's info
In your games people, does the 2000 Zonda have more power stock than the 2002 Zonda? Just asking if this is a glitch or actually a mistake cause I bought one just like that.
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Posted 01/28/2012 3:04 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Draghon's info
You know what I don't understand, is the trading once a day thing... I can go trade online at 12:10 AM then trade again at 5 PM (17 hour difference) but then I can't do it at 10 AM the next day...
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Updated 01/29/2012 3:52 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Draghon's info
Know what I'd like to see and have, there's an Arcade game called "Derby Owners Club" you get to train your horse's specific attributes, I'd like to see that in my drivers. sure they are lv40 and can't learn anymore, but if I start over fresh, I want to train my driver to be more accurate while braking better, over his strength or whatnot... I want to teach him MY style of driving (or the kind I wish I could do) I want him to overtake and not crash into the back of the car in front (unless it sends that car flying into the guardrail and helping him slow down....

On the flip side, there is an error on the b-spec 3,000,000cr race at the Sarthe, the sharp right turn at the end of the straights, if your driver goes too wide and hits the dirt, the driver after stopping and waiting for the whole god damn field of cars go by, will only travel at <50mph for about 1/4 miles...

P.S. Enough of this BS Random Names for our B-Spec Drivers... I know the name I want is in the game, LET ME PICK IT!


Edit: One of my online friends told me to try Sport soft tires on the 2J Race Car on the 3,000,000cr B-Spec Seasonal Event....... DIDN'T HAVE TO PIT! WOW!!!
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Updated 01/29/2012 11:30 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Draghon's info
The AC Cars 427 weight is off too according to Wikipedia... WITH weight reduction the weight I have is 1101kg and Wiki says at the heaviest it is at 1068kg
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Posted 02/01/2012 12:35 AM Post a reply Quote this post View MasterGT's info
Kerr wrote:
I wonder how this kind of thing passes QA.


That's a good question, one that has been whispered for many years.
However, I doubt we could get a solid answer.

GT5 isn't the only version with oddities, it's just the first full version for which we can get corrections.
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Updated 02/01/2012 1:26 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Draghon's info
What I just want to know is out of all the Models lets say Skyline (R34) for example, what one is the definitive best one from start to finish on upgrades is it the Nur? is it the MNP, is it the M or V-Spec??

What's the best Miata MX-5 Roadster?
what's the best car to use at 700pp or 600pp or 5, to 400pp etc, etc, etc (saying etc 3 times is reference to an old movie)

What's the best out of each of the Evos I, II, II, etc, etc, etc

I just want to buy the best model, by my meaning, I mean Best handling while keeping the Power To Weight Ratio as low as can be... I mean I have a Cappuccino that handles like crap but it's faster than the TC and RMs of it's same PP class

I mean, is the 05 mustang really worse than the 07 premium or are they the same? ALSO, I'd like to know why there is a 2000 SVT in this but in GT3 and 4 it was a 2003???

ALSO, someone needs to speak up about the paints, I have 23+ Blacks all separated and I don't see a reason why, other than Makes, that they shouldn't be combined, Just combine them and show them in every make that has them... Yeah I see that the Blacks have little to no difference in shade but come on, just combine them, when we paint it on a car from that make, then make it that shade... I'm tired of seeing paint I just obtained being separate from the ones gifted to me too
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Posted 02/01/2012 2:34 AM Post a reply Quote this post View X-886's info
One that really bugs me is the weight of the F40. At max weight reduction; it weighs 1125 kg (25 kg more than the actual real-life spec. The body is that of the European prototype but they gave it the american spec weight!

The 2010 Camaro's weight distribution is inverted (48/52). There's no way a FR car with the trans mated to the engine has a rear biased distribution ( I searched for and found the correct distribution; not speculating).

And still we have the- gear top speed/actual speed- issue. Hopefully all of these things would be fixed.

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Updated 02/01/2012 3:49 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Draghon's info
I think what we all have to remember is that the creator of this franchise is a driver of cars, not a tuner parse, even if he does know about tuning and specs and such, the game has pretty much been turned over to to nerds and pencil pusher types that have no idea what cars are lol... Case and point, the damage graphics, no car when crashed into looks like melted butter, even if it did, the carbon fiber cars aren't ever going to come even close, carbon fiber breaks not bends... I think someone did the wrong math cause I can definitely see if there was an error translating from lb to kg... I know the differences cause I used to fuel planes for a living, international planes, the pilot would tell me how many to fill in kg, then hat to convert to gal, then again to lb or something like that..l the Pilot wants say 2300kg but the truck I used only had gal, and the plane gauge was in lb lol

OK I'D LIKE TO ADD!!! All the cars are screwed up in one way or another... Wiki says the Mazda 110S (L10A) came with 110HP (thus the name) and the (L10B) came with 128HP. Before the oil it was on like 101hp and after it was 111hp, the latter car was at like 115hp and after the oil it finally came to 128hp...
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Posted 02/01/2012 10:40 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Kerr's info
MasterGT has a good point that prior games also had anomalies, and that at least with GT5 there is the possibility of corrections. All said, "The Real Driving Simulator" moniker is definitely to be taken with a grain of salt. Smile
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I know I have no proof, but............
Posted 02/02/2012 7:02 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Draghon's info
My cousin PSN: saradale (named after street he used to live on) and I are trying to wrap our heads around this. In GT1,2,3,&4 we drive (very well) without the line on, but for some reason we just can't get a feel for the courses in GT5, we don't know what it is but we just can't drive without using the line as a reference point in GT5....
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Posted 02/02/2012 8:11 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Kerr's info
How often have you not used it? Most of the time?
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Posted 02/02/2012 11:28 PM Post a reply Quote this post View Draghon's info
huh? when I 1st got the game, I didn't use it, and it felt weird... I tried to muddle through it for about a month but I just turned it on and left it on....
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Updated 02/03/2012 3:22 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Draghon's info
So Kerr, you actually on here or Idle? anything you are working on right now? Haven't heard any updates from you in a while, hope you are doing well.

Edit: Reason I asked is cause it shows you still on, but It doesn't say I'm on on my screen...
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Posted 02/03/2012 7:18 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Kerr's info
I've been off more than on. Lots happening in my life right now. A relocation to another state is very likely, so that will be taking my time for the near and mid future.
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Updated 02/07/2012 4:47 AM Post a reply Quote this post View Draghon's info
Well I hope the move is for the better and not because of something negative... I've done that myself before... then I ended up $2000 in debt cause of the move...
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